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Post by SeaSun of the Soul on Oct 29, 2019 11:56:25 GMT -5
I have a 2007 4460 … Fireboy system installed and works only when the override switch is turned on at the helm. If turned off, the starboard engine is cutoff. Any experience with this and how to best troubleshoot? Could this simply be a fuse at the switch?
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Post by gofast24 on Oct 31, 2019 10:44:28 GMT -5
I have a 2007 4460 … Fireboy system installed and works only when the override switch is turned on at the helm. If turned off, the starboard engine is cutoff. Any experience with this and how to best troubleshoot? Could this simply be a fuse at the switch? Our system still working fine after 19 years (we get a green light at the helm to indicate is is OK). I wouldn't mess around with the engine room Halon fire extinguishing system, just have a professional look at it. Too much to loose if you have an engine room fire and it does not auto activate! Have you ever had the charge in the canister checked to see if it is still full? That might be you problem? I dont recommend this being a DIY fix. |
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Post by Jacobdovaz on Dec 30, 2019 2:46:15 GMT -5
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Post by Jacobdovaz on Dec 30, 2019 2:47:20 GMT -5
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Post by gofast24 on Dec 30, 2019 10:57:04 GMT -5
Jacobdovaz
You should be signed on as a member before posting two times "hello"? Admin, can you check this out?
Pre Happy New Year!
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Post by seasunofthesoul on Jan 8, 2020 22:24:50 GMT -5
Update: I had multiple professionals look at the system. Ultimately, I've ordered a newer replacement bottle that I will install to replace the current one. Although the gauge shows it is within normal pressures, it was deduced through the electrical connections that the charge switch is not in a good state. $1500 fix.  |
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Post by gofast24 on Jan 9, 2020 10:25:00 GMT -5
My Thoughts= Just have the charge pressure switch replaced? Unless it is part of the halon bottle? Also, you indicated the starboard engine wouldn't start, typically both engines should not start if the Fire Boy is detecting a fault/low bottle pressure?
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Post by seasunofthesoul on Mar 3, 2020 21:02:44 GMT -5
Just to further follow-up, the pressure switch isn't serviceable (so I was told by professionals). I have the new Fireboy bottle and components ... but IT ISN'T THE SAME SIZE AS THE OLD ONE! OF COURSE NOT! GRRRRR. Yes, I was sure to purchase the correct size for the engine compartment space. So, the bolt pattern needed to mount the new bottle won't just plug-and-play with the old bottle mounts. Now I need to get a custom fabricated steel plate to adapt the new bottle to the old mount. GRRRR. I emailed Xintex/Fireboy asking if they had an adapter plate but they don't ... all they did was send me schematics of measurements for the new bottle bracket.
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Post by gofast24 on Mar 7, 2020 11:31:23 GMT -5
Sorry about that , ashame a 2007 Fireboy halon system replacement has totally new mounting dimensions and no direct replacement! Hopefully you might be able to just drill a few new mounting holes and get it fixed. Smart to have a professional check it and maybe also do the install if your not handy?
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Post by Rich on Mar 9, 2020 9:05:48 GMT -5
Just to further follow-up, the pressure switch isn't serviceable (so I was told by professionals). I have the new Fireboy bottle and components ... but IT ISN'T THE SAME SIZE AS THE OLD ONE! OF COURSE NOT! GRRRRR. Yes, I was sure to purchase the correct size for the engine compartment space. So, the bolt pattern needed to mount the new bottle won't just plug-and-play with the old bottle mounts. Now I need to get a custom fabricated steel plate to adapt the new bottle to the old mount. GRRRR. I emailed Xintex/Fireboy asking if they had an adapter plate but they don't ... all they did was send me schematics of measurements for the new bottle bracket. Was the size you purchased the same capacity bottle as the original? Not per your engine compartment space, but equal in bottle volume to the original bottle that you are replacing? I'm just curious, and I'm not suggesting that it's the wrong size for your boat. It's possible that Regal used a different size for some reason than what the current Fireboy recommended size. |
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Post by gofast24 on Mar 10, 2020 9:54:45 GMT -5
I would hope that Regal installed the correct size halon bottle when they built the vessel ? So either the professionals that indicated what size bottle he should get vs. what size he had originally were in conflict? Suggest the OP contact whomever he bought the new bottle from and ask why it doesn't fit the current bottle installation? Assume the OP had the model/part number of his current bottle and that the vendor shipped something different or indicated the current bottle was no longer available?
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Post by tc33obx on Mar 10, 2020 12:35:48 GMT -5
Seasun,
Hello, I had a similar issue on my 2006 4460, ended up having to replace the Fireboy switch at the help to get the situation remedied. My issue was a little different in that the engines ran, but the firebox system alarm just stayed on. With the switch replacement all is well.
One thing to try though before replacing the switch is to make sure the wires for your monitor switch aren't shorting in any way. That could also cause the issue you are seeing. There are a lot of wires behind the helm setup and over time there could have been some corrosion or rubbing to create a short.
Note the switch I'm talking about is the round monitoring switch at the helm. Mine was below the steering wheel on the starboard side of the helm.
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Post by gofast24 on Mar 11, 2020 9:32:31 GMT -5
Our Fireboy helm monitoring unit is the same as you describe, a 2" round white plastic housing with a green led in the middle. Don't remember if there is a switch with it or not, never needed to use it  . Should probably take a closer look next time at the boat? |
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Post by tc33obx on Mar 11, 2020 10:01:25 GMT -5
In my case with the 4460 the older one did have a switch (actual toggle) to bypass the alarm. The one they replaced it with to fix my problem is much newer and only shows the lights, but I do believe there is a soft switch to silence the alarm.
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Post by gofast24 on Mar 12, 2020 10:22:03 GMT -5
Interesting, a switch to silence the alarm but then still allows you to start the propulsion engines? If so, dont like that scenario other than if you are at sea in a storm or justin pulling up to a dock, in those cases you wouldn't want the fireboy to shut down engines or not allow the engines to re start?
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. Should probably take a closer look next time at the boat?