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Post by jimmyjet on Apr 9, 2020 22:21:41 GMT -5
I bought a 1991 Regal Commodore 360 a few weeks ago and the MONITOR PANEL in the galley quit working last week. With the MONITOR PANEL breaker switch turned on at the ship's 12 volt power panel, the clock does not light up nor is there any indication for the water tank/waste tank levels...nothing works. Is there another fuse behind the panel in the galley or is the breaker switch at the ship's power panel all there is? I cannot find any information on this in the Owners Handbook.
Thanks - JJ
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Post by sgilbert on Apr 10, 2020 8:42:49 GMT -5
Dare I ask? Is the main battery switch turned on?
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Post by jimmyjet on Apr 10, 2020 12:55:11 GMT -5
Dare I ask? Is the main battery switch turned on? Actually don’t think I have a "main battery switch" on this per se....but the 12 volt panel is on, everything else is working on the DC side like cabin lighting, bilge pumps, head, etc....there is a "breaker switch" for the MONITOR PANEL...that switch is turned on and the red light adjacent to the switch is illuminated but the monitor panel clock does not light up nor does the indicator for the water tanks/waste tank, etc....the MONITOR PANEL is completely "dead".... |
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Post by sgilbert on Apr 10, 2020 13:51:48 GMT -5
You don't have something similar to this?? It would likely be red and near the engine room area. link |
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Post by jimmyjet on Apr 10, 2020 14:14:28 GMT -5
You don't have something similar to this?? It would likely be red and near the engine room area. linkno...no battery switches onboard...but I would think if everything ELSE is powered on the 12 volt panel, the MONITOR PANEL should be powered as well....and like I said initially, it was working before and I’ve really not changed anything...I just noticed the clock was not illuminated and that’s what drew my attention that NOTHING was working on the panel.... |
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Post by tc33obx on Apr 10, 2020 14:39:03 GMT -5
did you disconnect and reconnect the batter connectors and make sure there is no free wire connections back by the battery(ies). Surprise you don't have a battery switch. I would recommend installing one and also adding another battery if you don't have two.
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Post by jimmyjet on Apr 10, 2020 15:05:30 GMT -5
did you disconnect and reconnect the batter connectors and make sure there is no free wire connections back by the battery(ies). Surprise you don't have a battery switch. I would recommend installing one and also adding another battery if you don't have two. There are four batteries onboard all tied to a battery charger/converter and isolator system....two batteries are connected to that system in parallel...the other two are connected to their respective engine....the converter runs/charges to two service batteries when on shore or generator power....engine batteries are used only for starting and charged by the converter on shore/gen power or alternators with engines running.... |
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Post by tc33obx on Apr 10, 2020 16:01:32 GMT -5
Interesting you have 4 batteries and no battery switches. I would expect switches to be involved there somewhere to turn the systems off when not connected to shore power and leaving the boat for some time. I don't know anything about your particular boat, but I would check all the batter connections and ensure that all of the connectors were reconnected to the "house" batteries which are connected to that charger inverter. Perhaps someone forgot to reinstall a connector somewhere. In my case Regal configured my charger inverter on my 2006 4460 to charge all 6 batteries on the boat when in use and connected to shore power. All the batteries connected to a junction box which had battery switches for Port, Starboard and House. I had two batteries for each engine/IPS unit and an 8-D battery for the house. All the main DC connections came into that box and the larger fuse/breakers were also within that junction box. I also had my AC/DC panel in the cabin to turn systems on and off. Your boat doesn't have anything like that? I searched out there and couldn't find a manual for a 1991 Regal Commodore 360, but I did fine this Regal manual from 1994 that list a Commodore 300 and 400. I looked and it does reference battery switches like what I described above on my 4460, I would think there must be something similar on your boat. 1994 Regal Owners Manual |
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Post by jimmyjet on Apr 10, 2020 19:21:22 GMT -5
I inherited the Owners Manual with the boat purchase and the wiring diagram shows no switching between the batteries and power panel...and as said before, I made no changes and the MONITOR PANEL simply stopped working....that said, if there’s no separate fuse behind the panel in the galley, then I can only guess a circuit on that panel is "toast"....🤷🏻♂️
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Post by gofast24 on Apr 12, 2020 10:55:46 GMT -5
Hard to believe no main battery switches on your vessel even if it is a 1991?? My thoughts = Remove the panel that the waste/potableble water tank level switches are in (we have the same type of panel with switches and two gages that you have to individually turn on (a momentary push to close) to get a reading) and put a voltmeter across the terminals (should be both a plus (red) and negative(black) terminal/wire going to them and check for 12 VDC. It is also possible on a boat that age that the B+ (12 VDC) feed wire has corroded either at the breaker or at th switch panel so check for continuity at those terminals and let us know!
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Post by jimmyjet on Apr 13, 2020 10:49:49 GMT -5
Hard to believe no main battery switches on your vessel even if it is a 1991?? My thoughts = Remove the panel that the waste/potableble water tank level switches are in (we have the same type of panel with switches and two gages that you have to individually turn on (a momentary push to close) to get a reading) and put a voltmeter across the terminals (should be both a plus (red) and negative(black) terminal/wire going to them and check for 12 VDC. It is also possible on a boat that age that the B+ (12 VDC) feed wire has corroded either at the breaker or at th switch panel so check for continuity at those terminals and let us know! Thanks for the input on this....I expect to be at the boat in the next couple days; will give that a try and report back. The panel I have has a three position rocker switch for potable water level as my 360 has two 64 gallon tanks. The switch selects between Starboard/Port/Off....both that and the waste tank level is indicated by horizontal lights along the top right edge of the panel that light up in sequence to indicate the amount of water. I was hoping to find there was simply a burned out 10 amp fuse on the rear of the panel that had blown.... |
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Post by gofast24 on Apr 18, 2020 10:05:26 GMT -5
Interesting you have two 64 gal potable water tanks? We only have one on our 4160.Are you sure you have two 64 gallon potable water tanks 9and not fuel tanks?) Go ahead and measure if you have 12VDC feeding that panel. Our switch is a momentary push to read waste tank level and the other direction to read fresh water level. The center position is spring return to "off".Those gauges shouldn't need a 10 amp fuse as they should be just connected to sender units in each tank, maybe need a amp or so to make a reading?
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Post by jimmyjet on Apr 21, 2020 14:35:21 GMT -5
Interesting you have two 64 gal potable water tanks? We only have one on our 4160.Are you sure you have two 64 gallon potable water tanks 9and not fuel tanks?) Go ahead and measure if you have 12VDC feeding that panel. Our switch is a momentary push to read waste tank level and the other direction to read fresh water level. The center position is spring return to "off".Those gauges shouldn't need a 10 amp fuse as they should be just connected to sender units in each tank, maybe need a amp or so to make a reading? Yes, I’m certain of that...directly from the owners manual...a diagram of the water system shows the two 64 gal tanks for the system along with a 65 gal waste tank...fuel is two 140 gal tanks... |
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Post by jimmyjet on May 14, 2020 17:07:39 GMT -5
As a follow up to previous comments on this thread....I was out to the boat a few times doing some cleaning and checked the voltage at the DC Power Center panel and the Monitor Panel and could not find the problem...12 volts available everywhere so I resigned myself to the possibility of the Monitor Panel being "dead".....expecting I would need to find a replacement. A couple weeks later I had a transport company load my boat on a trailer to move it to another lake closer to my residence. The boat sat on the trailer for a few weeks while having some work done to the props before launching at the other lake. Once in the water again, the Monitor Panel began working properly. I’m going to take that for a "WIN"....at least until it quits working again.....
Thanks all for the input and suggestions....JJ
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