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Post by lg260ss on Apr 12, 2020 13:41:51 GMT -5
Has anyone seen this? New for 2020, VP has a new silent and smooth shift system standard on all outdrives. It is also able to be retrofitted to existing drives.
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Post by PuraVida on Apr 12, 2020 21:50:27 GMT -5
I have not heard of this, but this is great news. VPs drives used to shift super smoothly, but the new electronic shift ones seem to slam into gear. For retrofit, is states "All it takes is changing out the upper transmission unit". I am guessing this won't be cheap, but it might be worthwhile.
Thanks for sharing this news!
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Post by Rich on Apr 14, 2020 9:13:36 GMT -5
If it's only for noise, and there is no long term wear and tear changes, why bother to spend the money.
If you have to replace your 'upper transmission unit' for some other reason (failure, etc.) then I can see choosing this over an older technology but I wouldn't do it simply to get rid of a noise when I shift from forward to reverse. Some people may do that, but I wouldn't.
I bet it would be very expensive!
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Post by gofast24 on Apr 14, 2020 10:06:43 GMT -5
My experience with MERC Bravo I drives was that when shifting into either F or R I got a clunk, never was a problem with my 1992 502 powered 24' Python. the boat is still running around somewhere on Lake Lanier and no problems?
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Post by tc33obx on Apr 14, 2020 10:27:11 GMT -5
I think one of the reasons to smooth this shifting capability now more than in the past is due to the implementation of Joystick systems. A joystick ends up taking a drive back and forth sometimes a lot more quickly than you would do on your own with the shifters. It can be leveraged in non-Joystick implementations but the biggest benefit is those implementations. Most joystick implementations I've used with outdrives are clunky at best. No where like the IPS system when shifting between forward and reverse. It would be interesting to leverage a Joystick system with this new shifting technology with outdrives.
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Post by Rich on Apr 16, 2020 9:17:34 GMT -5
I suppose this does make sense for a joystick system.
But IMHO, if there is no long term reliability issues, then I can't see many people paying to change to the new system until a failure or serious maintenance becomes an issue. It's nice that Volvo allows for this for those that want it.
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Post by gofast24 on Apr 16, 2020 9:37:09 GMT -5
This sounds as it is similar to a "dual clutch" trans on a vehicle? A little faster than manual shifting but the effect the same?
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Post by Av8ator1 on Apr 16, 2020 17:14:09 GMT -5
The use of the stick takes away from gingerly shifting. Watching someone dock with a joystick, your heart breaks at the noise the shifting is making and how rapid it is.
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Post by tc33obx on Apr 17, 2020 8:54:14 GMT -5
Av8ator,
I agree with everything other than a true IPS boat. My IPS shifting noise was non-existent and the joystick simplified nearly all close quarters handling situations. I've driven or been on I/O joystick boats and they are clunky in shifting as I stated above. My new 2020 OBX has Outboards with a joystick, and it marginally less clunky so I think I'll be using the joystick much difference on that boat then I did on my 4460.
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Post by lg260ss on Apr 17, 2020 10:34:21 GMT -5
As I learned how to use my joystick last year, I began to make a game out of shifting the least number of times I could. The clunk doesn’t bother me but it would be nice if it was silent.
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Post by rlazar on Apr 17, 2020 10:44:41 GMT -5
As I learned how to use my joystick last year, I began to make a game out of shifting the least number of times I could. The clunk doesn’t bother me but it would be nice if it was silent. Same. However I had the Merc joystick system on my 2015 32 Express, the "clucking" was much less than in prior years and really was minimal on my setup. I also learned how to use the joystick as to minimize shifting.
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