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Post by sprout on Apr 23, 2020 5:35:30 GMT -5
Hello to All, I bought a new to me 2019 23 OBX and wanted to know if anyone has installed a fixed VHF radio. If so where did you mount it? Or, are most using portable VHF? Any feedback or thoughts are greatly appreciated. This is the left side of the help which has a fusion radio installed and switches above with limited space. On the right side is the engine ignition and a pocket sized for a smartphone with a DC power connector From looking at my own boat there is a very small lip just below the right side but doesn't seem like a lot of space/material for a VHF mount. Thanks!!
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Post by sgilbert on Apr 23, 2020 8:07:27 GMT -5
Without a pic of the dash area, I would have no clue. What I DO know, however, there is no substitute for a full power fixed VHF radio and a good 6 ft antenna.
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Post by sprout on Apr 24, 2020 8:11:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply. I added a couple pics from the internet I could find with the helm. I can take some more pics of my boat if that helps.
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Post by sgilbert on Apr 24, 2020 9:28:00 GMT -5
I see a couple of spots. 1) Hanging on lower edge of helm, but you risk banging your knees occasionally. 2) In the side gunnel below the throttle where the sticker is now--facing upward. 3) Just in front of windshield--right or left of wheel--depends whether you're left or right handed.
A VHF with channel selector on the mic might be of help in some of these.
Pointer: Don't scrimp on the antenna or mount. Cheap is as cheap does.
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Post by Av8ator1 on Apr 24, 2020 9:46:54 GMT -5
I am not sure which unit your installing but the Garmin unit will fit in that little cell phone pocket. I would do away with the cell phone pocket, remove the cig lighter (use the USB from Radio to charge stuff or use the usb cable behind the radio, there is an additional one back there). I think this will give you a cleaner look. The switches on top, are not all used, I would dedicate a switch from there to run just the radio, the switches are all powered already.
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Post by sprout on Apr 24, 2020 18:02:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the suggestions. I made a model of the radio from cardboard and agree the easiest install is the lower left or right side of the helm but in perfect knee striking range. Just above the console on either side is an option but would look like an after thought and you couldn't avoid exposed wiring from the back of the radio that would need to make its way into the helm console.
I was also thinking about removing the cellphone holder and power accessory. I can either relocate that or to your point use the USB connection of the head unit. I would most likely also need to relocate the ignition switch and do some careful surgery on the existing opening to get it in. I'm surprised Regal hadn't thought of this need when designing the helm area.
Last, there is a cup holder and side pockets to the lower right sides below the gear shifter which lends plenty of space. The radio would need to be mounted vertical but pretty easy access for wiring nearby.
Thanks for the input again, I really appreciate the replies. Just have to weigh the options and then decide if I want to tackle or not on my own.
The radio I'm considering is the Garmin 215 AIS for easy integration with the Garmin 742 chartplotter.
Last question in regards to the antenna. I could mount a small antenna on top of the power tower or would you suggest a standard length mounted to the gunnel?
Thanks again!!
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Post by sgilbert on Apr 24, 2020 19:53:42 GMT -5
I'd go for a top of the line Shakespeare or Digital 6' antenna to a SS adjustable gunnel mount base. There will be times you will have to lower the antenna, and a quick lever release works well. The short antenna on top of your tower do not have the range, and will be forgotten when it's time to lower it in a hurry!
(Hint: DO get a solder on connector; DO NOT use the solderless connector! Bad to very little contact. Also, DO NOT cut the antenna cable short--bunch it & wire tie it)
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Post by Av8ator1 on Apr 25, 2020 6:33:10 GMT -5
As mentioned before, go with full length antenna.
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Post by gofast24 on Apr 25, 2020 9:38:16 GMT -5
Use cell phone? Assume you are not cruising the ocean 100's of miles from shore? We have two VHF radios and never have used either one.
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Post by sgilbert on Apr 25, 2020 11:52:05 GMT -5
Use cell phone? Assume you are not cruising the ocean 100's of miles from shore? We have two VHF radios and never have used either one. Well, now you've brought up another point. Sprout, where are you boating? If inland on smallish lakes with cell towers around, VHF is useless. If on the Great Lakes, like I am, or the ocean, it is necessary. Remember, though, VHF is line of sight. A 6' antenna to another 6' antenna on standard size boats gives about 8-10 mile range. If further out than that, you're out of range. The taller the antenna(s) the greater range.
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Post by sprout on Apr 25, 2020 16:40:42 GMT -5
Thanks All. I boat on Long Island in the great South Bay so pretty close to land on either side and plenty of boating activity around. After thinking further I may just get a portable VHF as cellular signal is pretty good around the area.
Thanks,
Sprout.
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Post by sgilbert on Apr 25, 2020 17:36:31 GMT -5
Thanks All. I boat on Long Island in the great South Bay so pretty close to land on either side and plenty of boating activity around. After thinking further I may just get a portable VHF as cellular signal is pretty good around the area. Thanks, Sprout. Sounds like a plan! FWIW, I'm sure I've seen hand held to Antenna cable adaptors somewhere. That would be a great help on the rare occasion that you MIGHT nerd Long range VHF. After all, unless you are a fisherman who likes to gab with other fishermen, VHF is primarily a distress radio service.
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Post by dmundarain on Oct 16, 2020 21:44:46 GMT -5
Sprout Did you get one? Can you share what you did? Thanks Dimitri
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Post by gofast24 on Oct 18, 2020 11:07:50 GMT -5
Use cell phone? Assume you are not cruising the ocean 100's of miles from shore? We have two VHF radios and never have used either one. Well, now you've brought up another point. Sprout, where are you boating? If inland on smallish lakes with cell towers around, VHF is useless. If on the Great Lakes, like I am, or the ocean, it is necessary. Remember, though, VHF is line of sight. A 6' antenna to another 6' antenna on standard size boats gives about 8-10 mile range. If further out than that, you're out of range. The taller the antenna(s) the greater range. Good advice! As we are on fairly large inland lake cell towers everywhere, cant remember last time using either one of the the 2 VHF radios we have. probably should just remove and give away? As vessel new launched on Lake Lanier with one VHF radio assume that in 2001 cell phone service or towers not not available or poor signals? Second VHF radio original owner installed , dont know why, probably original one failed or not working well so though more expensive radio would solve problem? We have two 1/4 wave (?) about 10' antenna's, both still mounted but both just rotated almost fully down to prevent from hitting two bridge underpasses on lake when water level low! Antennas make boat look "technically advanced" (LOL)? We have no problems streaming music from cell phone to Fusion head unit anywhere on lake, great!
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Post by dmundarain on Nov 18, 2020 22:32:27 GMT -5
I was convinced this would be much harder to do, but just a couple of hrs and the Garmin 115 is installed on the port side of the helm. The plastic pocket and 12 volts plug were sacrificed, but it looks very good. The main points: 1) the entire assembly with the rocker switches come out very easily, so you can work on it outside the boat 2) the most difficult part is to take pictures of all the cables on those 4 switches and put them back together. The doc/navigation light switch has 7 cables, so make sure they all go back to where they were 3) I cut the little plastic box for the cell with a small saw and the radio fits very well 4) You would also need to reach the NMea 2K hub to connect the radio to that network. This cam be accessed by removing the 5 screws and opening g the dash. You don't need to take the plotter out 5) the radio pulls GPS information from the plotter now Ill also update the thread with the instruction for the antenna when I finish this weekend Attachments:
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