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Post by gofast24 on May 13, 2020 10:34:48 GMT -5
Just learned something new again at my age! last Sunday son called from anchor and said gen set stopped running and wouldn't re start or run. It had been running for about 15 minutes then stopped. Bottom line = He read everything in chapter 5 of the Regal owners manual, didnt see anything about gen pickup tube being higher up in tank than propulsion engines fuel pickup? Solution, both 150 gallon fuel tanks were below 1/8 full per the extremely accurate Faria fuel gages at the helm. As both propulsion engines started and ran we finally figured out the fuel pick up tubes for the gen are about 1" or so higher in the tanks from th bottom than the propulsion engines pick up tubes, so, no fuel into gen pick up tubes being higher in the tank but main engines pick up tubes still submerged in fuel. This was a interesting find ! Makes sense, let the gen run out of fuel but have enough fuel left to start and run the main engines to get back to dock . Moral of story, told son not to let main fuel tanks get below 1/4 full before going to sea especially if needing to run gen set for a long period of time while anchored. ! Ciao
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Post by tc33obx on May 13, 2020 16:52:07 GMT -5
good info for 4x60 owners. I nevrer knew this, but like you I never let the tanks get below 1/4 as the starboard side dropped off extremely fast when it got into that range. On my 4460 the port tank was 180 gallons and the starboard 150 I believe. I had a fuel transfer switch but never was able to get it to actually transfer fuel. My thinking is there was a shut off somewhere in line that I couldn't see. I believe the gene pulls from the port tank on the 4460s, but I got that from the former owner, so maybe it does something different.
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Post by gofast24 on May 14, 2020 10:06:59 GMT -5
We did find a 3 way gen transfer fuel valve (the owners manual shows one gen fuel pickup tube in each tank)that allows pulling gen fuel from either stbd or port tank to balance out how much fuel in main tanks left in order to not run one dry just from gen. Still not totally sure that the gen fuel pickup tubes are actually higher in the tanks than the propulsion engine fuel pickup tubes but that is my thinking, makes sense to me? i might mail Regal and ask them if they have any info on my assumption. Wont post to "ask Regal" as previous mentioned in a another mail, never see a reply to any post in that sub topic?
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Post by gofast24 on May 15, 2020 10:40:35 GMT -5
good info for 4x60 owners. I nevrer knew this, but like you I never let the tanks get below 1/4 as the starboard side dropped off extremely fast when it got into that range. On my 4460 the port tank was 180 gallons and the starboard 150 I believe. I had a fuel transfer switch but never was able to get it to actually transfer fuel. My thinking is there was a shut off somewhere in line that I couldn't see. I believe the gene pulls from the port tank on the 4460s, but I got that from the former owner, so maybe it does something different. Maybe with your new, beautiful 33 OBX you can ask regal or the dealer that you bought it from if, in fact, the two gen fuel pickup tubes are actually higher in the tanks than the outboards fuel pickups? You might get a reply more than us older Regal boat owners What do you have for gen set, kw rating and mfg? Just curious.
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Post by tc33obx on May 17, 2020 17:25:31 GMT -5
I'm looking to get contact with Regal Engineering on a hard top question and I can throw this one at them as well. While I love the blue lighting on the 33 OBX, it would have been great if it was true RGB lighting so that you could choose the color. The problem for me is that even at the highest setting the blue light does not even cast enough of a glow on the buttons on the console to figure out which one to press for which function. The letters aren't backlit either. My solution and I tested this with 4 RGB puck lights that simply take batteries and attached to the hardtop with double face tape. With just the cheapo puck lights, I ended up with plenty of light to see the switches when I used the white light setting. My plan is to add 4 LED 12V Stainless white lights that surface mount. I plan to install them with a 12V 4 Zone remote switch dimmer. That will allow me to fully control either all 4 lights separately via the 4 zones or the port and starboard side leveraging 2 zones via the remote dimming from off to full brightness. What I need is a power source for these lights that isn't dimmed. I could just use or tie them into the hardtop blue light strip, but I'd rather be able to control them separately. So I'm reaching out to Regal Engineering to see if there is an always on power source I could tap into within the hardtop wiring, or what it would take to route a power and ground wire up there for this purpose and maybe tie it into a switch that isn't used on my boat.
So when I call them I'll ask them about the generator pick up.
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Post by gofast24 on May 19, 2020 10:36:07 GMT -5
Thanks for reply! I replaced 4X radar arch incandescent lights with flush mounted LED lights, took a little grinding opening holes to put new LED in but got it done. The switch at the helm for the on/off lights I devised(concocted) a dimmer circuit by just putting in a 20 ohm/20 watt resistor in line with the feed and with a unused rocker switch at the helm used it to just short out the resistor to go from bright to dim. Works great. Most of the time just in the "dim" mode! Yes, I know we are off topic, maybe start a new thread to continue?
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Post by ladolcefarniente on May 31, 2020 16:56:26 GMT -5
Generator pick-up tubes being shorter, than engine p/u tubes, is common practice for all boats. Basically a safety measure to ensure you don’t run your tank dry running your generator.
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Post by gofast24 on Jun 2, 2020 9:58:59 GMT -5
Agree, good practice and complying with USCG reg's etc. But who knows what the configuration is on our older boats vs. USCG requirement to have gen fuel pickup tubes higher in tank than propulsion engines? Welcome to the ROF! Would b nice to know your location and year boat manufactured.
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Post by philiphancock on Jun 18, 2020 14:41:43 GMT -5
Quick story - For a few weeks before my boat went to the yard for repairs my generator kept cutting off intermittently. Would run a little while then shut off. Sometimes I could get it restarted, sometimes I couldn't. I figured low coolant, overheating, impeller, dirty fuel filter, etc but all checked out. Fuel gauges both read 3/8ths of a tank. Two weeks ago I picked up the boat from the yard and ran her home, the generator wouldn't stay on so just kept it off. Decided to go home on the ocean side out of Port Everglades and in through Haulover inlet (notoriously hairy!). Had my mechanic come take a look he insisted there was almost no fuel in the tanks and below the pickup for the generator. I showed him the 3/8ths per the fuel gauges, he said they were wrong and to get some gas. Note I just got this boat in Feb 2020 with 3/4 tank of fuel and this was my first time getting fuel. Fuel truck comes, boat takes 147 gallons in port and 150 gallons in starboard (297 gallons of fuel, tanks hold 328 gallons total) - I was in the ocean and out of fuel! Whattya know since I filled the fuel tanks the generator has run like a charm. So yes, I believe the generator fuel pickup is below the engine pickup, and I'm glad it is!
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Post by gofast24 on Jun 19, 2020 10:19:06 GMT -5
Glad you figured out that gen cant run if fuel pickup tubes for gen set are higher up in fuel tank than propulsion engines. We also found this out recently! Suggest you check the gauges and sender unit in the fuel tanks! If you have Faria's most like the gauges and not the sending units? Also good idea to make sure fuel tanks are full if going on a long multi hour trip as well a not letting the low fuel level with possibly water and crud in the bottom getting sucked into the engines filters?.
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