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Post by DanielSilva on Jun 18, 2020 17:02:51 GMT -5
A couple of weeks ago I had an incident where the rope got cut off and lost my anchor with the chain and rope.
I am now trying to get one but can't seem to find the size for them.
Does anyone know what would be the correct size of rope, chain and anchor to a 2006 Regal 3560? Based on the original parts. Any information will help.
Thanks,
Daniel
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Post by sgilbert on Jun 18, 2020 20:11:36 GMT -5
Windlass? You'll have to refer to the windlass mfgr. to determine the chain & rope size. Anchor will depend on what bottom(s) you will encounter. Anchor size depends on the type of anchor. Mfgr., again, will say the size for your boat, but strongly recommend 1 size larger. Length of rope & chain also depends on your anticipated max depth of anchoring. Rule of thumb is 7x depth. You'll want lots of extra length, though, for safety sake.
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Post by DanielSilva on Jun 19, 2020 13:42:40 GMT -5
Yes, it is Lewmar Windlass with a 002 gipsy.
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Post by sgilbert on Jun 19, 2020 17:14:31 GMT -5
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Post by gofast24 on Jun 20, 2020 10:01:01 GMT -5
We had a problem with the rode (nylon rope) not being able to let the windlass pull it up. The spring loaded SS paddle that held the rope against the windlass hub was gone. No service part available. So, just bought 150’ 5/16” G43 grade hot dipped galvanized chain ($450) and problem solved.
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Post by tc33obx on Jun 22, 2020 8:43:37 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of going with an all chain rode. My windlass on my 4460 was perfectly fine, but the nylon rope always slipped, as well as the knot where the chain met the rope always swelled and then wouldn't go through the windlass. Typically my wife was up there dealing with this situation as I was at the helm and it was always a source of frustration for her and me, when the windlass would get stuck. Going with all chain rode eliminated those issues. The only issue with all chain rode is when you are in a windy environment, clearly there is no real give to the chain if it pulls tight, so in a really windy environment you'll get some sound from the front when that happens. With the nylon line, there would be some shock protection in the give of the rope. I believe there are options of using some kind of shock protection linked into the chain and tied to a cleat, but I haven't gotten something like that yet since it doesn't happen often.
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Post by gofast24 on Jun 22, 2020 10:08:26 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of going with an all chain rode. My windlass on my 4460 was perfectly fine, but the nylon rope always slipped, as well as the knot where the chain met the rope always swelled and then wouldn't go through the windlass. Typically my wife was up there dealing with this situation as I was at the helm and it was always a source of frustration for her and me, when the windlass would get stuck. Going with all chain rode eliminated those issues. The only issue with all chain rode is when you are in a windy environment, clearly there is no real give to the chain if it pulls tight, so in a really windy environment you'll get some sound from the front when that happens. With the nylon line, there would be some shock protection in the give of the rope. I believe there are options of using some kind of shock protection linked into the chain and tied to a cleat, but I haven't gotten something like that yet since it doesn't happen often. There is, we have something you indicated on boat when purchased, never knew what it was for, but now know. For us, we are no more than 5/10 mile from covered dock and with weather radar on smart phone we can get back to dock in 10/15 minutes . We converted to all chain some years ago, wont loose any more anchors unless anchor get stuck under a tree stump then middle son can dive down and get it loose?
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Post by tc33obx on Jun 22, 2020 10:44:22 GMT -5
I probably should have mentioned this but the only other drawback or advantage of all chain rode is that you get about 200 to 400lbs added depending on the thickness of the chain and size of your boat on the very front of the boat. Helps planing, but also is more weight for the boat to carry around. Also, throws off your waterline a little bit for your bottom paint. More so in a smaller boat, like my 33 OBX, than a bigger one like my 4460.
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Post by sgilbert on Jun 22, 2020 12:07:49 GMT -5
After loosing my anchor and a Chinese fire drill to stay off the beach many years ago, I went all chain. 100' of chain, but several years ago, I added 50' of rope to the bitter end just as an emergency extension.
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Post by gofast24 on Jun 25, 2020 10:55:52 GMT -5
After loosing my anchor and a Chinese fire drill to stay off the beach many years ago, I went all chain. 100' of chain, but several years ago, I added 50' of rope to the bitter end just as an emergency extension. Good to do 50' of nylon rode! We would have done that other than the ss spring loaded paddle holding nylon rode to windlass broke/gone/no longer available so just wen with all chain. Not too worried about a hundred pounds of additional weight on the bow, on the 4160. That is just one of a pretty gal on the vessel
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Post by tc33obx on Jun 25, 2020 17:25:26 GMT -5
gofast,
I actually liked the extra weight in the front on my 4460. That hull tends to ride bow high all the time. The extra weight pushed the bow down a bit I think it helped me plane faster and also cut through the waves easier.
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Post by gofast24 on Jun 27, 2020 10:19:00 GMT -5
Good info, thanks! As your basically on the ocean and have some high waves our situation is different. On a fresh water inland lake (about 25 miles long) hardly any wavers over a foot or two, no problem for us. The largest waves we have is when a big cruiser (like ours) comes out of a no wake zone and then full throttle, 2-3 foot waves
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Post by philiphancock on Nov 22, 2020 8:49:34 GMT -5
gofast, I actually liked the extra weight in the front on my 4460. That hull tends to ride bow high all the time. The extra weight pushed the bow down a bit I think it helped me plane faster and also cut through the waves easier. What size and length of chain did you get for your 4460? Thanks!
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Post by Rich on Nov 23, 2020 10:15:04 GMT -5
On my 3560 I replaced the original rode and chain with this:
8 Plait 5/8 200 ft anchor rode 30 ft 5/16 G4 chain
The original was 3 strand, but I decided to go 8 Plait this time. I'm sure the original was 5/8 rope and 5/16 G4 chain, but check your gypsy to be sure.
I just noticed this was an old thread, but maybe someone can use the information in the future.
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Post by gofast24 on Nov 23, 2020 10:43:07 GMT -5
Great, thanks!
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