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Post by cordale on Jul 15, 2019 9:44:42 GMT -5
Wondering if my on board battery charger is starting to or has shot the craps. Prior to this year, I've always had two batteries in parallel for the house. I decided to break one of those out so my generator could be on it's own battery. The issue I'm running in to, it doesn't seem like the one battery is "carrying the load" for very long when i'm out in the cove without my generator running. I have two mini fridges, plus some lights, and stereo. Once my single battery draws down, start getting alarms in the cabin, I fire up my genset to recharge. But it doesn't seem like it's recharging fast?? See pics for the model of charger I have. Any tips on how I can test if this charger is working properly before I simply install a new one? Attachments:IMG_4118.pdf (53.6 KB)
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Post by lg260ss on Jul 15, 2019 19:07:07 GMT -5
First, if you are running down your house battery until things start to beep then you are probably running it down too far. I think for the items you are running you should have 2 house batteries.
How long are you running the generator and charger for to charge the battery? A run down battery can take several hours to charge.
How many amp hours is your house battery? Remember, you can only use half of a batteries amp hours if you want the battery to last. So if you have a 100 amp hour battery you should only use 50 before charging. Running 2 fridges along with other items will eat up 50 amp hours in 8-10 hours or so. That will depend on how efficient your fridges are.
On a recent 6 day outing we did the following. We have 2- 100 amp hour batteries in parallel. 2 fridges, stereo, toilet, water pump etc. we woulld run the generator for around 3 hours each evening to change the batteries, use the AC, and grill. At around the 3 hour mark the batteries were fully charged and the charger went into standby.
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Post by cordale on Jul 16, 2019 9:51:59 GMT -5
So are you able to sleep overnight (without the genset running) and NOT plugged in to shore power and still wake up with juice in the batteries?
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Post by lg260ss on Jul 16, 2019 11:08:46 GMT -5
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Post by ME2660 on Jul 16, 2019 11:12:06 GMT -5
FYI, Charles Tech support is in Casey, IL Technical Support (Monday - Friday, 7:00 AM - 4:00 PM CST) Phone: (217) 932-2317 Fax: (217) 932-2473 Email: marine.industrial@charlesindustries.com they are very help full
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Post by Ella28 on Jul 16, 2019 18:38:46 GMT -5
We have 2 batteries on our 28 Express (1 engine, 1 house) with no built in generator. When we stay on our mooring ball 2-3 nights at a time we run the fridge the whole time and run the stereo during the day, charge phones etc. I run the boats engine about 3 times a day for a about 15 minutes each and we stay charged up. It helped tremendously when I changed ALL of the lights on the boat to LED. Made a huge difference in power consumption. I do carry a portable 2200 generator and will sometimes turn on the battery charger after running the cooktop, microwave or coffee. But running the boat is a little quieter and heats up the water tank!
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Post by bradmond on Jul 17, 2019 14:27:01 GMT -5
ELLA28, "sometimes turn on the battery charger after running the cooktop, microwave or coffee."
All of these are wired to an inverter? What brand / model?
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Post by rodegaard on Jul 18, 2019 16:46:54 GMT -5
Hi
I have a 2016 28 Express with no gensest as well. I've switched the two batteries to AGM types and the house battery is a group 31 at 100 amps. I've added a 3rd group 31 100 amp AGM centered over where the gensest would be and it's wired into a 1 KW sine-wave inverter which feeds one side of a transfer switch in the cabin. I have 2 high resolution voltmeters in the electrical panel area to monitor the house and inverter batteries voltage readings.
My charger is a Pro-Nautic 40 amp ( 3 outputs) so all 3 batteries are being charged when on shore power. On the water, I currently have one 100 watt flexible solar panel which can provide about 5 to 6 amps to help offset the current drawn by my 2 refrigerators, stereo, chart plotter use, etc. by charging the house battery (or the inverter battery). Optimally, I'd like to add a 2nd 100 watt panel so that I can charge both the house and inverter batteries simultaneously, or by paralleling the outputs, one or the other.
Biggest problem is the solar panels on top of the bimini - the bimini canvas needs protection from even these light-weight flexible panels - I'll probably get pouches made to hold them in place permanently.
I notice that your charger is pegged off-scale so assume you're showing it at maximum output (ie: 30 amps or so)?
Rick
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Post by gofast24 on Jul 21, 2019 11:16:32 GMT -5
I installed a Group AGM house battery 5 years ago(254 A-H at 20 hr rate) (replaced a shot flooded wet cell that had boiled out about 25% of its electrolyte after purchasing the vessel) as well as a "Blue Seas" OLED DC voltmeter at the helm. Typical 50% discharge voltage for most batteries is 12.4 volts, don't discharge them below this or you will loose battery life. A fully charged lead acid /AGM battery (no loads or charging going on for 24 hours) should be at 12.7/12.9 VDC. If below this voltage time to do a load test or replace it (I have replaced all of our 4 batteries with AGM, so far, after 5 years, all are fine) . If at sea and house battery voltage down to 12.4/12.5 will start gen set for a hour or so, bring battery back to about 12.9 VDC as well as running fridge/ice maker/stereo
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Post by easyontherocks on Aug 16, 2019 15:10:56 GMT -5
I have a 2003 2665 commodore and like several boaters here, we have no genset and operate on a 2 battery system hooked up to an onboard charger. I replaced the original batteries with AGM and they are still running strong after 5 years. With the selector switch, either one can be used as a starter/house battery. Every outing I will alternate which battery is being used for the weekend. As stated earlier, changing all the lights to LED most definitely cut down on power usage when we are on the hook. The biggest user of juice is the amped up stereo system but normally, we will be moving from spot to spot during the day so the batt will recharge during that period. To date, I have never had a low/dead batt when waking up in the am and cranking up the engine. In an emergency, we have a Honda 1000 portable on board.
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Post by gofast24 on Aug 17, 2019 11:13:52 GMT -5
Wondering if my on board battery charger is starting to or has shot the craps. Prior to this year, I've always had two batteries in parallel for the house. I decided to break one of those out so my generator could be on it's own battery. The issue I'm running in to, it doesn't seem like the one battery is "carrying the load" for very long when i'm out in the cove without my generator running. I have two mini fridges, plus some lights, and stereo. Once my single battery draws down, start getting alarms in the cabin, I fire up my genset to recharge. But it doesn't seem like it's recharging fast?? See pics for the model of charger I have. Any tips on how I can test if this charger is working properly before I simply install a new one? My thoughts= First turn off all DC loads at breaker panel (also main battery switch in engine room ), and house battery charger for 24 hours, then check voltage at both batteries with all DC loads being off. you should be about 12.6 /12.8 VDC if batteries have been fully charged and not having any DC loads for about 24 hours they are most likely good batteries. Then Reconnect both batteries in parallel, turn on house charger (shore power or gen set and main DC battery switches in engine room) and again measure voltage at both battery terminals, they should then increase to around 13.5/14+ VDC after 15/30 minutes if house battery charger is functioning. If not, bad charger. You can then also start one or both propulsion engines and see if engine battery charging alternators are charging the two batteries by again checking the voltage at the battery terminals (same requirements, 13+ VDC when engines running) . let us know what you find out! .
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