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Post by tmuller on Jun 20, 2021 15:56:46 GMT -5
So my new 36XO took 1.5 hours to put on 200 gals. Something doesn't seem correct with these new "ventless" fills. Both the diesel and water fill just fine.
Has anyone else experienced this? I've heard it's the baffles in the back flow box.
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Post by hawker63 on Jun 21, 2021 8:13:41 GMT -5
I assume the time was being driven by the marina pump shitting off thinking the tank was full due to back pressure? I would think there’s an issue. We have our 4460 and the only constraint with how fast we can fill is the marina pump. For sure that’s way too long so seems like something plugged or not installed correctly. Sorry I don’t have more to offer
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Post by sgilbert on Jun 21, 2021 10:01:21 GMT -5
Sometimes I just love spell check! "...marina pump shitting off..."
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Post by kdubya on Jun 22, 2021 7:22:54 GMT -5
It is painful enough filling up a big tank but having to watch the dollars rise over 1.5 hours...
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Post by tmuller on Jul 25, 2021 11:04:31 GMT -5
Turns out the fill hose to tank had a dip in it. Fixed under warrantee, but just a heads up if anyone finds the same issue.
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Post by rlazar on Jul 26, 2021 7:47:08 GMT -5
Turns out the fill hose to tank had a dip in it. Fixed under warrantee, but just a heads up if anyone finds the same issue. I had a similar problem on my 2020 38XO. One of the retaining clips popped off resulting in a dip in the fuel line. We corrected that and fueling got better but it still was not ideal. Constant shut offs at multiple pumps unless I half throttled the fuel. A few weeks ago my marina shortened ( removed about 2 feet) of the fuel line going into the tank. The run is now all downhill and more direct. The also re-positioned the carbon canister. They said they were then able to fill 200 gallons with no issues. I have not fueled the the boat myself since the latest fix but I'm looking froward to that (other than the cost) to see if I can finally fuel without pump shutoffs. |
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Post by rlazar on Jul 26, 2021 7:49:05 GMT -5
So my new 36XO took 1.5 hours to put on 200 gals. Something doesn't seem correct with these new "ventless" fills. Both the diesel and water fill just fine. Has anyone else experienced this? I've heard it's the baffles in the back flow box. What do you mean diesel? Is that for the gen? |
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Post by tmuller on Jul 27, 2021 7:41:23 GMT -5
Yes, the diesel is for the generator. That filled just fine.
I'll be fueling Friday and see how it goes.
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Post by rlazar on Jul 27, 2021 7:51:59 GMT -5
Yes, the diesel is for the generator. That filled just fine. I'll be fueling Friday and see how it goes. So home come on the 36XO the gen is disel but on the 38XO is gas? In any event, I'lll be filling a about 200 gallons this week as well.. Hopefully my issues will be solved as well. |
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Post by tc33obx on Jul 27, 2021 8:52:58 GMT -5
I also had an issue with my 33 OBX filling last year. Mentioned it in the "things to care for over the winter list" for the warrantee work and this year its fine. I think they took a loop out of mine and that was the fix. worth checking the line routing.
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Post by tmuller on Jul 28, 2021 17:46:24 GMT -5
Yes, the diesel is for the generator. That filled just fine. I'll be fueling Friday and see how it goes. So home come on the 36XO the gen is disel but on the 38XO is gas? In any event, I'lll be filling a about 200 gallons this week as well.. Hopefully my issues will be solved as well. It's an option to add the German diesel generator. (I love it, except no NEMA to the helm.) Diesel really is a need in Florida. Gas generators just don't work here in Sarasota. |
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Post by rlazar on Jul 29, 2021 7:12:40 GMT -5
Finally. After a bit of struggle last season when my 38XO was new and again this season, we may finally have resolved the fueling issues. I filled up 235 gallons yesterday without the pump stopping at all. The pump was not the fastest BUT that was the first time I have fueled without having the pump click off.
We had to remove about 1.5 feet of fuel hose so the line was more direct and had the best slope into the fuel tank. They also raised the carbon filter on the vent side.
I'm cautiously optimistic this issue is fully resolved. I'll know for sure at the next high speed pump fill-up. If nothing else, its definitely is improved.
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Post by rlazar on Jul 29, 2021 7:16:58 GMT -5
So home come on the 36XO the gen is disel but on the 38XO is gas? In any event, I'lll be filling a about 200 gallons this week as well.. Hopefully my issues will be solved as well. It's an option to add the German diesel generator. (I love it, except no NEMA to the helm.) Diesel really is a need in Florida. Gas generators just don't work here in Sarasota. Interesting. My gas Kohler Gen on my 2015 32X was a joke. So far my gas Westerbek gen on our 38XO is working perfectly, I'm very impressed with it, However, there is no NMEA connectivity. |
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Post by tmuller on Aug 1, 2021 19:58:53 GMT -5
Well..... No luck. Dealer came out rerouted the fill line. Didn't work. Only fills at best 1 gal per minute. Keeps burping up. Every fuel dock says it's a vent issue, but there is no vent for the gas line. Some EPA thing about a carbon vent box. I have no idea. Dealer is coming back out.
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Post by rlazar on Aug 2, 2021 6:54:02 GMT -5
Well..... No luck. Dealer came out rerouted the fill line. Didn't work. Only fills at best 1 gal per minute. Keeps burping up. Every fuel dock says it's a vent issue, but there is no vent for the gas line. Some EPA thing about a carbon vent box. I have no idea. Dealer is coming back out. There has to be a vent. Take some pics both of the large diameter fuel lines going into and out of the fuel tank and post them. The line going in should have an only downward slope and no excess line or upward bends. The line coming out should also not contain any traps where fuel could sit and block the venting. If you follow the line out it should go into a carbon fuel filter then out of a vent in the side of the boat. This HAS TO BE THE CASE. If there is no vent, you would NOT be able to fuel the boat because as fuel enters the tank it displaces the air which needs to go somewhere. My guess is also your problem is on VENT SIDE. Make sure there are no traps where fuel could accumulate. I was also told IF fuel or water gets into the carbon filter that would cause a problem as well. On my 38 not only did they have to remove almost 2 feet of the fuel line going into the tank to create a nice slope without any uptick, but they also had to raise the carbon filter on the vent side. Once both those things were done, my issue was resolved. |
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